Oklahoma ‘Pro-Life’ State Rep Admits He’s Effectively ‘Pro-Choice’
This is the fruit of a self-centered, unprincipled American Corporate Church
Earlier this month, the “pro-life” industry in Oklahoma held its annual Rose Day in which they present “pro-life” state representatives and senators with roses.
During the event, T. Russell Hunter of Abolitionists Rising had a conversation with “pro-life” State Rep. Marcus McEntire (R-50th district) that was quite illuminating in showing just how unprincipled and weak the “pro-life” industry is.
Before I get to that, I want to note that probably most pro-life Americans want abortion to be criminalized and treated as murder. Yet, they continue to send money to “pro-life” organizations and politicians who do not. And they need to know that the “pro-life” industry is why abortion remains legal in all 50 states.
To set up the conversation, McEntire is leading an effort to reopen abortion clinics that have already been shut down in Oklahoma through House Bill 1656. Try as McEntire might to say the opposite, that’s exactly what it does. The bill would put exceptions into the current law to allow the murder of our preborn neighbors in the cases of “rape, sexual assault or incest.”
Keep in mind that what McEntire is saying by supporting these exceptions is that the innocent unborn child should be punished for the crimes of his father. Also keep in mind that while Oklahoma’s abortion laws have shut down the abortion facilities in the state, abortion remains legal because mothers are allowed to self-abort in the comfort of their own homes through pills that can be received for free via the internet.
In contrast to McEntire, Oklahoma State. Sen. Dusty Deevers (R-32nd district) has introduces Senate Bill 1729, the Abolition of Abortion Act. That bill states:
“Fulfill such constitutional requirement by protecting the lives of preborn persons with the same criminal and civil laws protecting the lives of born persons by repealing provisions that permit willful prenatal homicide or assault;
Protect pregnant mothers from being pressured to abort by repealing provisions that may otherwise allow a person to direct, advise, encourage, or solicit a mother to abort her child; and
Ensure that all persons potentially subject to such laws are entitled to due process protections.”
Here’s the video of the conversation between Hunter and McEntire:
Below is a transcript from most of the conversation starting at the 2:07-minute mark when the heart of the discussion begins. In bold are some of McEntire’s most absurd comments.
Hunter: Is there a way for you to possibly sponsor… Dusty Deevers’ bill across the way?
McEntire: No.
Hunter: You wouldn’t?
McEntire: I actually ran the bill… last year for exceptions.
Hunter: So, you want to open the abortion clinics back up in Oklahoma?
McEntire: No.
At this point, McEntire realizes he’s on camera and shows he’s a little squeamish about transparency. However, he does continue to have the discussion.
Hunter: I'm just asking you if you would consider supporting a bill to abolish abortion in Oklahoma?
McEntire: No, I will not support a bill for abolishing abortion in Oklahoma.
Hunter: Okay.
McEntire: Yeah.
Hunter: I mean, if that's your view, it's okay.
McEntire: I think this is not the role of government to get involved with a private decision that is absolutely gut-wrenching to make if you're in that position.
Hunter: Are you accepting roses today for being pro-life?
McEntire: Absolutely, absolutely.
Hunter: I know there's a difference between pro-lifers and abolitionist.
McEntire: Absolutely.
Hunter: I don't think you have to be ashamed.
McEntire: I'm not ashamed
Hunter: I think it's fine for you to be like, “I am a pro-lifer which means I will not abolish abortion in Oklahoma.” I’m not trying to get you on that.
McEntire: I mean, I don't know you so I don't know what you're trying to do.
Hunter: Because some pro-lifers might be like, “No, I think abortion’s murder. I don't want people doing it. I do think the role of gov.”…
McEntire interrupts: I think it’s barbaric.
Hunter: Well…
McEntire: I do.
Hunter: But do you think the role of the government should be to stop barbaric things?
McEntire: Um… that depends.
Hunter: Well, like if a mother strangles her newborn to death, should that be stopped?
McEntire: Do you believe that people should have the liberty to make their own decisions? I think you would say yes.
Hunter: Yes, except for whenever it violates somebody else's life, liberty or property.
McEntire: But that's between them and their god.
Hunter: Well, the government says ‘life, liberty, property.’ So…
McEntire: It does.
Hunter: I'm for free choices, but if it's like the choice to rape, the choice to enslave…
McEntire interrupts: We agree that we're pro-life. I’m just not an abolitionist.
Hunter: No, I'm not pro-life but….
McEntire: You're an abolitionist. I'm pro-life.
Hunter: I'm not saying that as like a tribalist thing but as an actual difference thing…. Do you think that there should be laws against murder in general in Oklahoma?
McEntire: Yes.
Hunter: Because you said “abortion is barbaric.”
McEntire: Dude, I know what you're trying to do, and you're trying to, yeah, and it’s fine.
Hunter: It’s just looking for consistency. Like, if abortion’s barbaric…
McEntire interrupts: Quit asking me questions and let's just discuss.
Hunter: Okay, go for it.
McEntire: No, you go for it. You approached me.
Hunter: Okay, then the one question is…
McEntire interrupts: This is a very tough issue. It divides the Republican party. It divides people. And I am looking for a solution. I represent a wide variety of people within my district. And I have to make decisions based on how I represent them or how they want to be represented.
Hunter: Right, what if they all want completely legal abortion?
McEntire: No, they don't. Nobody wants that.
Hunter: I'm just saying, if you say you have to represent them, if they all want that, do you have to do what they want?
McEntire: I would, if they all wanted it.
Hunter: They all wanted, like child molestation?
McEntire: If a majority of them wanted the abolition of abortion, I would vote for the abolition of abortion. But a majority of my constituency do not.
Hunter: Yeah, the majority, since you're elected, they're probably pro-lifers and they probably don't want the abolition of abortion.
McEntire: They don’t. They want the option, and they probably want it because, you know, God forbid their 12-year-old daughter get pregnant, or 13-year-old, you know.
Hunter: Yeah, I mean I agree with you. I think pro-lifers are essentially pro-choicers.
McEntire: I would say the way that you are, where you're coming from, you would have to say that to be consistent.
Hunter: Well, to keep it legal, like pro-lifers and pro-choicers agree with each other that abortion shouldn't be criminalized. Like in a Venn diagram, pro-lifers and pro-choicers don't agree on a whole lot. But pro-lifers and pro-choicers are both 100% against abolishing abortion.
McEntire:: I get what you’re saying. You coming from an abolitionist point of view, you are definitely going to see me as a pro-choicer.
Hunter: Yeah, well no. I'm going to see you as a pro-lifer
McEntire: Really? That's interesting. That's interesting because if I allow any exception at all then I'm not an abolitionist.
Hunter: No, you're a pro-lifer. You're not an abolitionist. So, you're a pro-lifer by which I mean you're someone who doesn't like abortion, thinks it's barbaric, maybe even think it's murder but thinks that the government shouldn't stop it. That's a pro-life position?
McEntire: Well, that's my pro-life position.
Hunter: Yeah, because like it’s not a trick. It’s a historical nuance that’s as old as our country.
McEntire: I just think it's just a situation that I don't envy anyone for being in, and it's a decision that they make.
Hunter: Well, we have all been in it.
McEntire: I actually haven't been.
Hunter: Well, no. You've been in the womb. You've been a little human in the womb
McEntire: Of course.
Hunter: And you know your mother didn't choose to abort you. We have all collectively been in that same situation, and so the bill or the a potential law would be just to extend the laws against murder to apply to all humans. So, an abolitionist says, “Just whatever we say about murder, let's apply it on all humans.” Because there are some human beings that murder other born human beings, and they were coerced to do. So, like if a gang member is coerced to kill another gang member and he gets caught, he's still liable for murder. But he was coerced. But we don't go, “Man, you know what, he was in a terrible situation. He was either murder or get kicked out of the gang, and if you get kicked out of the gang he may not eat or whatever. He was in a terrible situation. You know, what the best thing to do is just make murder legal.”
McEntire: That's just preposterous and you know it.
Hunter: It is preposterous. It's a reductio ad absurdum.
McEntire: Yeah, exactly
Hunter: And so, the thing is, what if we did it the other way and said, “Why don't we make murder illegal in all instances?” Like, give no particular group of people special murder rights, which is what we have now. Unless you don't think abortion is barbaric.
McEntire: Oh, I definitely do.
Hunter: Is it? Why is it barbaric?
McEntire: I mean, for the reasons you stated.
Hunter: Because it's murder?
McEntire: Yeah. I mean, it’s taking, it’s taking…. Look, I don’t like it dude.
Hunter: I agree, and I know you don't. But like I'm trying to get you to see if the government doesn't exist to stop murder, then what does the government exist to do?
McEntire: I represent my district. I'm not Dusty Deevers. When I got elected, I didn't say, ‘Look, I'm going to do whatever my heart and conscious tells me to do. I’m going to vote the way this district…
Hunter: Yeah, bearing that they ask you to do something reprehensible like legalize murder for born people.
McEntire: Okay dude.
Hunter: You know what I'm saying? It is consistent. Like if your people said, “You know what, we've been really thinking about it and what we want is legalized meth and child molestation.” You’d be line, “No, I’m not voting for that.”
McEntire: It’s very easy to see everything in this world as black and white. It's very easy, and you know what…
Hunter: Well, you said it was murder.
McEntire: It’s comforting. It's comforting.
Hunter: I'm not comforted. I'm saying you said abortion is murder. I'm just suggesting treat it that way.
McEntire: Look, I know you want this for your camera.
Hunter: Well, if you would change that’d be even better then getting it on camera.
McEntire: I'm not going to change. And I appreciate that you are really into this and you are passionate about it. And I know where it's coming from. Dude, I went to seminary.
Hunter: Oh, I did not go to seminary.
McEntire: I was you at one point.
Hunter: Well, what happened?
McEntire: I have a Constitutional mandate to represent my district.
Hunter: Well, that's why I asked you if your district goes really evil, do you just represent them or do you lead them?
McEntire: They do not want abortion abolished. They do not want abortion abolished.
Hunter: Because they're pro-lifers.
McEntire: Fine.
Hunter: Yeah, and so what the abolitionists are trying to do, and it may get a little fuzzy, is we're trying to get pro-lifers to become abolitionists.
McEntire: They’re not.
Hunter: I know they're not, but if we can convince pro-lifers to not only think abortion is murder but also treat it as murder, then we can actually make it murder.
McEntire: But that’s been the philosophy of the pro-life movement from the beginning.
Hunter: Well, then why did they leave their philosophy?
McEntire: Because they weren't abolitionists.
Hunter: But you just said that they were from the very beginning.
At this point, after McEntire exposed himself as a lying hypocrite who has no desire to stand up for the rights of innocent unborn children, his secretary steps in to say, “Okay, this is enough. This is enough.” McEntire added that, “Yeah, this is dumb. Yup, get him out.”
Of course, McEntire had to end it. He can’t win the debate. He’s unprincipled.
What is wrong with the “pro-life” industry?
I’d ask pro-life Americans, when McEntire says that “pro-lifers” want the “choice” to murdering unborn babies to be available, does that represent your views? If not, why do you continue to fund the “pro-life” industry and politicians who oppose what you want?
There are a couple arguments made by McEntire that really make my blood boil.
The first is McEntire’s defense of “democracy.” He believes in the tyranny of the majority. I am so tired of having to point this out.
The other argument, which really ticks me off, is McEntire has the audacity to describe the allowance of killing unborn children as a “liberty” issue. Why is it that the only time politicians, including “pro-life” politicians, reference liberty is when it comes to murdering unborn children?
I can guarantee you I want far fewer laws, a far smaller government, than McEntire wants. I’m pretty sure I want more liberty than practically any elected politician across the country federal, state or local.
And the only liberty stance when it comes to abortion is making it illegal. The first right listed in the Declaration of Independence is the “right to life.” One of the only places the government has authority is providing a justice system to punish criminals who have victimized others. Abortion is murder. The victim is the most innocent, the unborn child.
And I want to point out something McEntire wrote during the covid scam. He wrote that “the nations and states that have adopted stricter sets of prevention measures have fared better than those with more relaxed measures” as he argued for more Orwellian screening programs and Oklahoman following “QUARANTINE AND SOCIAL DISTANCING GUIDELINES.”
That guy has the audacity to claim he’s for liberty? Absolute nonsense.
And note that McEntire bragged about attending seminary. Of course he did. And the moral decay and degeneracy in America is the fruit of a self-centered, unprincipled American Corporate Church that desire worldly political gain rather than following God’s word.
Oklahoma is considered one of the most restrictive states with regards to abortion, according to The Guardian. So is Texas.
Hunter, in another video, described how Oklahoma is one of the top states for ordering abortion pills. And they can get those pills for free from a Texas organization.
So, guess what? Women now have the ability, from the comfort of their own homes, order pills and kill their babies without ever stepping foot outside. And the pacified “pro-life” industry can sit comfortably thinking abortions are dropping when in actuality they are problem going up. Because those murders will not show up in the stats.
And that’s also because of the “pro-life” industry’s insistence that women who hire an assassin, or take a pill, to murder their babies be considered victims.
Here are some of those “victims”:
One lady say, “I’ve had three abortions. Don’t regret any of them.” She later says: “F*** them kids.”
Another woman says: “I had an abortion before actually. That's actually really funny, and I have the most blessed life.”
She later say’s she’s “Catholic” and “I had an abortion, love God and God still loves me because I have the most amazing life and the most amazing friends and the most amazing boyfriend.” Her friend adds: “I would rather murder a baby… and enjoy my life.”
Yeah, they’re not victims.
Is abortion murder? Of course it is. So, pro-lifers, are you more concerned with worldly politics, or do you actually care about consistency and reality?
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